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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.24 10:09:26 -
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waflat maplat wrote:Some ill thought out crap
Nope
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:51:56 -
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Druadan wrote:PLEX being able to be bought with real money and then sold for ISK is horrible. It's pay to win. More like pay for somebody else to win.
Certainly you can buy PLEX from CCP and sell it for isk to buy shiny stuff, Eve being Eve the chances are that somebody will promptly remove said shiny stuff from you; especially if you're of the mindset that purple stuff = instant win or don't have the knowledge to use it properly.
It can also pay for alt accounts that you can use for multiboxing etc, unfortunately that comes with an efficiency hit, multiple actual people are more effective than 1 person and multiple accounts
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.28 22:22:47 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:
My main issue is this up and down economics and not getting my $20 worth if eliminating Plex and sticking to Arum well fix that so be it. I just feel everything is overpriced and ridiculously expensive and on top of it I get a miserly amount isk For the Buck.
You get what the market is willing to give you for a PLEX. You Find that Ok?So Your telling you rather get your plex in a market that pretty much rips you off Plex vs 2billion fixed rate you can buy directly from CCP than shenanigans from players. Im sorry as a Dev I wouldnt be Proud of a game That encourages Fraud and theft amongst players thats not Hardcore thats Criminal why would people want to subscribe to that. And the craziest thing is I have to ask my Bank to Unblock Eve Online In The RW so i can buy plex every month because they flagged it as a Fraudulent company thats insane. If they gave me back my Thousands of dollars i invested in this game trust me i wouldve unsubed along time ago. Which part of "PLAYER DRIVEN ECONOMY", which incidentally is one of the major selling points of Eve and is a term that CCP use in their advertising, do you fail to understand?
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.28 22:32:57 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:I get It... I Understand "the player driven economy" is a FAIL They would be more Successful Advertising Simcity Chimera roams thru space. Please explain the logic behind your claim that the player driven economy is a fail.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.28 23:03:10 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Solops Crendraven wrote:I get It... I Understand "the player driven economy" is a FAIL They would be more Successful Advertising Simcity Chimera roams thru space. Please explain the logic behind your claim that the player driven economy is a fail. When a Virtual Ship(Titan) Costs $7600 No it doesn't, it has no real world value because it can't legally be sold in the real world; it may cost the isk equivalent of $7600 but that's besides the point.
The $ figures used in the media when talking about losses in Eve are comparative to make the scale of loss in Eve easier to comprehend for the general public.
Quote:that you dont own according to EULA thats illogical.For Gods sake man its a Down payment for a RW House. On Top I have to By Plex to Sub 3 accounts that I will never own . Welcome to the terms of pretty much much every EULA ever.
[quote]I might as well give all my Money To Benny Hinn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9SS95q2kpgYou get more value for money out of Eve than you will out of any televangelist.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.28 23:34:54 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:Bottom line What I am saying is This wouldn't be a issue If CCP Allowed Players to sell their Plex and accounts for real money. Something that is explicitly forbidden; their game, their intellectual property, their rules. If you don't like it you're free to leave and find something that meets your requirements.
Quote:I just dont see any ROI On This game and that too is against EULA It's a game, the ROI is measured in fun and being entertained, if neither applies then you don't have to play.
Quote:All Im Trying to do is make it cheaper and more affordable for us gamers thats all.The More we get rid of all the isk and material Sinks the Better.Get Rid Of The Plex! The solution to your problem is obvious, play a game that meets your requirements instead of one that doesn't.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.29 00:18:32 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:I am entertained and have alot of Fun especially on these Forums So why are you whining? You're getting your desired ROI, just not fiscally.
Quote:however nothing wrong In making a little money There is when it violates the EULA.
Quote:I don't mind spending the Plex However i dont Mind getting rid of it Either to get more for my Buck PLEX is CCPs solution to RMT, it enables them to gather income that would otherwise go to gold farmers running bots, income that is spent on improvements to the game among other things
Quote:I assure You Eve will become a better sandbox Yeah right...
Quote:With me in it because I am The Solution. I am what EVe needs. You're certainly something, this isn't it.
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.29 00:33:36 -
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Solops Crendraven wrote:We can go on Debating and debating Blue to our Faces.
It wont change the Fact That I will remain And the Plex System will be no more.
You think Eve is going to be the same in 30 years from now or even exist ?
All i can say My Role In Eve Either in Real Life or Role Playing I am a Disrupt or and a Agent of Change so all i can say Live With It! Dream on...
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Concord Guy's Cousin
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Posted - 2015.01.29 13:47:03 -
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Commander Cute wrote:This thread is absolutely blowing my mind. You're one up on the illiterate troll, you've got a mind to blow 
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